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Interview with Dr. Frances Conley
author of Walking Out on the Boys
December 1999
by Leuren Moret


In 1991, with tenure and other distinguished faculty appointments at Stanford University, Frances Conley, M.D., was the first female neurosurgeon in the United States. With the impending appointment of a new department chair who had treated her inappropriately as a woman, she protested to the Dean and resigned when the appointment proceeded. She wrote a strong Op-Ed piece about her resignation and the predicable destruction of her career under the new chair, and sent it to six newspapers. To her surprise, the media picked up the story and continued to cover it. This experience changed her life.

In her work as a neurosurgeon Conley conducted research on innovative treatments for brain cancer in a lab which she supported with grants. Extremely focused on her work, she had little awareness of other women faculty or their struggles for tenure outside her department. When her Op-Ed piece appeared in the media her departmental colleagues promptly withdrew support from her. However, to her surprise, she received wide support from women faculty throughout the university and became aware of challenges faced by other women on the campus.

The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission approached her. She talked with commission members but signed no papers and refused to file suit against the university. The EEOC conducted an investigation of Stanford and compiled extensive data on the status of its women faculty. The results of this investigation were sent to Washington, but no action was taken.

Because she was tenured and held other prestigious appointments, it was difficult for Stanford to criticize or discredit Conley. She commented that most women who challenge a university administration have " a pair of twos" to play with but she had " five aces." The university refused to speak to the media and only her side of the dispute was presented. Followed for years by reporters and cameras she was extremely well treated by the media and noted media attention to be a " double edged sword." Because of wide support she was able to rejoin the faculty in the Department of Neurosurgery. However, she lost her lab and was unable to regain her position in the field of neurological research. Today she is Chief of Staff of the Palo Alto Veterans Hospital and has found her career fulfilling because of the positive difference she has made in people´s lives through her research and innovative patient treatments.

In 1925, 19% of academic faculty in the United States were female. Today, the corresponding percentage is 24, little progress in 75 years. At Stanford, 19% of the tenured faculty are women, one of the lowest percentages in the top research universities. Conley commented that women are hired in large numbers at the lower levels but become threats when they approach tenure.

Stanford is presently under investigation by the Department of Labor for discrimination against women seeking tenure (see http://www.gender- equity.org/labor.htm). The women faculty have been successful in getting publicity and support because they have presented themselves as an organized group. Individuals seeking tenure are easy targets for a powerful institution to discredit and wear down with harassment tactics.

Conley observed that occupational devaluation occurs when women enter a field in large numbers. In 1945, all bank tellers were men and it was the acceptable path to becoming bank president. Today, bank tellers are nearly all women with little status. She predicted that in the next 5 to 7 years, the medical profession will become two-tiered. Primary care doctors and pediatricians will be women and get lower pay and prestige. The specialist fields will be elite, highly paid, and prestigious and composed of white males.

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